Yeah Black Creek is terrible on the weekends, don't matter how nasty or cold it is they are at it with the sking and wakeboards and lots of big yatchs trying to swamp you too. Think I am going to try it one night if I can get a night that isn't too cold. They do it a lot in south Florida and up in Georgia too with lights at night. Won't be the first skunk for me so got nothing to loose.